My Opinion on the Opinion of Chris “Monty” Montgomery

Chris Montgomery is the Audio Expert, who invented the OGG Vorbis codec. That gives enough reason to accredit him with good advice. I recommend that my readers read his advice here.

I did read the whole thing, but have three comments on it:

  1. The Author suggests that 16-bit sample-depth offers a de-facto solution to the limits in dynamic range, simply due to the correct application of dithering. If I cannot trust my hardware to perform correct low-pass filtering, why on Earth would I trust it to perform correct, 16-bit, audio dithering?
  2. The Author explains the famous loudness curves, that define threshold of perceptibility, as well as the higher threshold of pain. What he fails to point out is that these curves assume, that the sound being tested for, is the only sound being played over the headphones. If there is another, background sound being played – i.e. the current loudness-level already higher than zero – then the threshold of perception for a given test-sound, is higher – requires a higher level, for that test-sound itself to be heard. Yet, this level is still lower, than the peak level of the background sound. People who design codecs know this, as I am sure the author does. It is the threshold of perceptibility next to a background sound – not the absolute threshold – which gets used in the design of codecs.
  3. The Author suggests it would be a misuse of his codec, to encode discrete multi-channel sound. And one reason he states, would be the waste in file-size, while the next reason he states, would be the fact that sound jumps to the nearest speaker, when they are all encoded that way.

This last observation strikes a cord with me. I have already noticed, that OGG Files do allow numerous channels to be encoded in parallel, but that if we exceed 2, we lose the benefits of Joint Stereo. By itself, this does not really count against this Author, whose codec therefore does not offer explicit surround-sound. But the possibility is very real, that the localization of sound will jump to the nearest speaker, if the listener moves and the sound was encoded that way. It is entirely possible, that purposeful encoding of surround-sound by the (competing) AC3 or the AAC codecs, reduces this risk.

But then I would suggest an alternative approach, to people who do not want to use the proprietary codecs, yet who wish to encode their movies with surround.

There exists the Steve Harris LADSPA plug-in library, which includes a matrix encoder for Pro Logic. This matrix encoder accepts 4 input channels, one of which is the surround channel, and outputs 2 stereo channels.

Further, the circuitry must exist someplace as well, to accept 2 stereo, 1 center and 1 surround-channel, and to encode those in real-time, so that the surround-effect can be played back over 6 speakers.

  • In principle, it should be possible to OGG-compress 4 channels and not 6, so that these channels can be used as inputs, to a matrix surround-system, like to the LADSPA plug-in, so that listenable surround will emanate from all speakers. Does Audio Software exist, which applies the LADSPA plug-in in real-time?
  • Alternatively, it might be possible to mix down Pro Logic sound into Stereo using the Steve Harris plug-in, and then to use FLAC on the resulting stereo.

BTW: What the Author mainly writes, is how incorrect it would be for pure listeners, to download their music in 24/192 format. He does not actually write, that Music / Sound Authors should avoid recording in this format. And so one fact which I have observed, is that there exists a lot of Audio Software – such as – that stores its sound in some higher, internal format, but which, when instructed to Export that to a 16-bit format, offer Dithering as an option.

This is possible because the Application is numeric and not physical. Thus, If I had used my USB-sound-device to record in 24-bit, I could next Export the finished sound tracks to 16-bit:

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But, It would also seem that Chris Montgomery equates the use of such technology, as only being suited for Professionals. I am not a professional, and do not have the extremely expensive tools they do. Yet, I am able to author sound-projects.

Dirk

 

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